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			<title>JaroslavTulach at 10:38, 6 April 2018</title>
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Everyone not deeply knowledgeable of [[Java]] will expect that [[frontend]] means an application running in a browser or in a WebView component (on desktop or mobile phone) written using [[CSS]]/[[DOM]] &amp;amp; co. The term [[frontend]] no longer includes [[Swing]] or [[SWT]] (the old and almost dead desktop [[GUI]] technologies of [[Java]]), it only means [[DOM]], [[CSS]] &amp;amp; co. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Everyone not deeply knowledgeable of [[Java]] will expect that [[frontend]] means an application running in a browser or in a WebView component (on desktop or mobile phone) written using [[CSS]]/[[DOM]] &amp;amp; co. The term [[frontend]] no longer includes [[Swing]] or [[SWT]] (the old and almost dead desktop [[GUI]] technologies of [[Java]]), it only means [[DOM]], [[CSS]] &amp;amp; co. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;-&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;What's your opinion? Does [[frontend]] equals (more or less) to [[HTML]]5 these days?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;What's your opinion? Does [[frontend]] equals (more or less) to [[HTML]]5 these days? &lt;ins style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;Vote [https://twitter.com/JaroslavTulach/status/982205644273954816 here], thanks.&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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			<pubDate>Fri, 06 Apr 2018 10:38:25 GMT</pubDate>			<dc:creator>JaroslavTulach</dc:creator>			<comments>http://wiki.apidesign.org/wiki/Talk:Frontend</comments>		</item>
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			<title>JaroslavTulach at 10:25, 6 April 2018</title>
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Recently we got into a discussion: What does [[wikipedia:Front_and_back_ends|frontend]] mean?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Recently we got into a discussion: What does [[wikipedia:Front_and_back_ends|frontend]] mean?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;-&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;On one side the term [[frontend]] is very generic. It's [[wikipedia:Front_and_back_ends|wikipedia entry]] describes it in general terms too. It somehow tries to pretend that any [[GUI|user interface]] is also a [[frontend]]. However, when you look at [[Swing]], you see it being referenced as [[GUI|graphical user interface]] or as [[GUI]] widget toolkit, not as a [[frontend]]. As such I believe the meaning of the term is shifting more and more towards web development. The term [[frontend]] has been kidnapped by the [[JavaScript]] camp few years ago&lt;del style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;. It no longer means [[Swing]] or [[SWT]], it only means [[DOM]], [[CSS]] &amp;amp; co&lt;/del&gt;. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;On one side the term [[frontend]] is very generic. It's [[wikipedia:Front_and_back_ends|wikipedia entry]] describes it in general terms too. It somehow tries to pretend that any [[GUI|user interface]] is also a [[frontend]]. However, when you look at [[Swing]], you see it being referenced as [[GUI|graphical user interface]] or as [[GUI]] widget toolkit, not as a [[frontend]]. As such I believe the meaning of the term is shifting more and more towards web development. The term [[frontend]] has been kidnapped by the [[JavaScript]] camp few years ago. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;-&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Everyone not deeply knowledgeable of [[Java]] will expect that [[frontend]] means &lt;del style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;exactly &lt;/del&gt;an application running in a browser or in a WebView component (on desktop or mobile phone) written using CSS/DOM&lt;del style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;/etc&lt;/del&gt;.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Everyone not deeply knowledgeable of [[Java]] will expect that [[frontend]] means an application running in a browser or in a WebView component (on desktop or mobile phone) written using &lt;ins style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;[[&lt;/ins&gt;CSS&lt;ins style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;]]&lt;/ins&gt;/&lt;ins style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;[[&lt;/ins&gt;DOM&lt;ins style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;]] &amp;amp; co. The term [[frontend]] no longer includes [[Swing]] or [[SWT]] (the old and almost dead desktop [[GUI]] technologies of [[Java]]), it only means [[DOM]], [[CSS]] &amp;amp; co&lt;/ins&gt;. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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			<pubDate>Fri, 06 Apr 2018 10:25:42 GMT</pubDate>			<dc:creator>JaroslavTulach</dc:creator>			<comments>http://wiki.apidesign.org/wiki/Talk:Frontend</comments>		</item>
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			<title>JaroslavTulach at 10:23, 6 April 2018</title>
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Recently we got into a discussion: What does [[wikipedia:Front_and_back_ends|frontend]] mean?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Recently we got into a discussion: What does [[wikipedia:Front_and_back_ends|frontend]] mean?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;-&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;On one side the term [[frontend]] is very generic. It's [[wikipedia:Front_and_back_ends|wikipedia entry]] describes it in general terms too. It somehow tries to pretend that any [[GUI|user interface]] is also a [[frontend]]. However, when you look at [[Swing]], you see it being referenced as [[GUI|graphical user interface]], not as a [[frontend]]. As such I believe the meaning of the term is &lt;del style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;being shifted &lt;/del&gt;more and more towards web development. The term [[frontend]] has been kidnapped by the [[JavaScript]] camp few years ago. It no longer means [[Swing]] or [[SWT]], it only means [[DOM]], [[CSS]] &amp;amp; co. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;On one side the term [[frontend]] is very generic. It's [[wikipedia:Front_and_back_ends|wikipedia entry]] describes it in general terms too. It somehow tries to pretend that any [[GUI|user interface]] is also a [[frontend]]. However, when you look at [[Swing]], you see it being referenced as [[GUI|graphical user interface]] &lt;ins style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;or as [[GUI]] widget toolkit&lt;/ins&gt;, not as a [[frontend]]. As such I believe the meaning of the term is &lt;ins style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;shifting &lt;/ins&gt;more and more towards web development. The term [[frontend]] has been kidnapped by the [[JavaScript]] camp few years ago. It no longer means [[Swing]] or [[SWT]], it only means [[DOM]], [[CSS]] &amp;amp; co. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Everyone not deeply knowledgeable of [[Java]] will expect that [[frontend]] means exactly an application running in a browser or in a WebView component (on desktop or mobile phone) written using CSS/DOM/etc.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Everyone not deeply knowledgeable of [[Java]] will expect that [[frontend]] means exactly an application running in a browser or in a WebView component (on desktop or mobile phone) written using CSS/DOM/etc.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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			<pubDate>Fri, 06 Apr 2018 10:23:26 GMT</pubDate>			<dc:creator>JaroslavTulach</dc:creator>			<comments>http://wiki.apidesign.org/wiki/Talk:Frontend</comments>		</item>
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			<title>JaroslavTulach at 10:22, 6 April 2018</title>
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;-&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;On one side the term [[frontend]] is very generic. It's [[wikipedia:Front_and_back_ends|wikipedia entry]] describes it in general terms too &lt;del style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;trying &lt;/del&gt;to pretend that any [[GUI|user interface]] is also a [[frontend]]. However, when you look at [[Swing]], you see it being referenced as [[GUI|graphical user interface]], not as a [[frontend]]. As such I believe the meaning of the term is being shifted more and more towards web development. The term [[frontend]] has been kidnapped by the [[JavaScript]] camp few years ago. It no longer means [[Swing]] or [[SWT]], it only means [[DOM]], [[CSS]] &amp;amp; co. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;On one side the term [[frontend]] is very generic. It's [[wikipedia:Front_and_back_ends|wikipedia entry]] describes it in general terms too&lt;ins style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;. It somehow tries &lt;/ins&gt;to pretend that any [[GUI|user interface]] is also a [[frontend]]. However, when you look at [[Swing]], you see it being referenced as [[GUI|graphical user interface]], not as a [[frontend]]. As such I believe the meaning of the term is being shifted more and more towards web development. The term [[frontend]] has been kidnapped by the [[JavaScript]] camp few years ago. It no longer means [[Swing]] or [[SWT]], it only means [[DOM]], [[CSS]] &amp;amp; co. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Everyone not deeply knowledgeable of [[Java]] will expect that [[frontend]] means exactly an application running in a browser or in a WebView component (on desktop or mobile phone) written using CSS/DOM/etc.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Everyone not deeply knowledgeable of [[Java]] will expect that [[frontend]] means exactly an application running in a browser or in a WebView component (on desktop or mobile phone) written using CSS/DOM/etc.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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			<pubDate>Fri, 06 Apr 2018 10:22:23 GMT</pubDate>			<dc:creator>JaroslavTulach</dc:creator>			<comments>http://wiki.apidesign.org/wiki/Talk:Frontend</comments>		</item>
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Recently we got into a discussion: What does [[wikipedia:Front_and_back_ends|frontend]] mean?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Recently we got into a discussion: What does [[wikipedia:Front_and_back_ends|frontend]] mean?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;-&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;On one side the term [[frontend]] is very generic. It's [[wikipedia:Front_and_back_ends|wikipedia &lt;del style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;description&lt;/del&gt;]] describes it in general terms too trying to pretend that any [[GUI|user interface]] is also a [[frontend]]. However, when you look at [[Swing]], you see it being referenced as [[GUI|graphical user interface]], not as a [[frontend]]. As such I believe the meaning of the term is being shifted more and more towards web development. The term [[frontend]] has been kidnapped by the [[JavaScript]] camp few years ago. It no longer means [[Swing]] or [[SWT]], it only means [[DOM]], [[CSS]] &amp;amp; co. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;On one side the term [[frontend]] is very generic. It's [[wikipedia:Front_and_back_ends|wikipedia &lt;ins style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;entry&lt;/ins&gt;]] describes it in general terms too trying to pretend that any [[GUI|user interface]] is also a [[frontend]]. However, when you look at [[Swing]], you see it being referenced as [[GUI|graphical user interface]], not as a [[frontend]]. As such I believe the meaning of the term is being shifted more and more towards web development. The term [[frontend]] has been kidnapped by the [[JavaScript]] camp few years ago. It no longer means [[Swing]] or [[SWT]], it only means [[DOM]], [[CSS]] &amp;amp; co. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Everyone not deeply knowledgeable of [[Java]] will expect that [[frontend]] means exactly an application running in a browser or in a WebView component (on desktop or mobile phone) written using CSS/DOM/etc.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Everyone not deeply knowledgeable of [[Java]] will expect that [[frontend]] means exactly an application running in a browser or in a WebView component (on desktop or mobile phone) written using CSS/DOM/etc.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;What's your opinion? Does [[frontend]] equals (more or less) to [[HTML]]5 these days?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;What's your opinion? Does [[frontend]] equals (more or less) to [[HTML]]5 these days?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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			<pubDate>Fri, 06 Apr 2018 10:22:00 GMT</pubDate>			<dc:creator>JaroslavTulach</dc:creator>			<comments>http://wiki.apidesign.org/wiki/Talk:Frontend</comments>		</item>
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Recently we got into a discussion: What does [[wikipedia:Front_and_back_ends|frontend]] mean?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Recently we got into a discussion: What does [[wikipedia:Front_and_back_ends|frontend]] mean?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;-&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;On one side the term [[frontend] is very generic. It's [[wikipedia:Front_and_back_ends|wikipedia description]] describes it in general terms too trying to pretend that any [[GUI|user interface]] is also a [[frontend]]. However, when you look at [[Swing]], you see it being referenced as [[GUI|graphical user interface]], not as a [[frontend]]. As such I believe the meaning of the term is being shifted more and more towards web development. The term [[frontend]] has been kidnapped by the [[JavaScript]] camp few years ago. It no longer means [[Swing]] or [[SWT]], it only means [[DOM]], [[CSS]] &amp;amp; co. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;On one side the term [[frontend&lt;ins style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;]&lt;/ins&gt;] is very generic. It's [[wikipedia:Front_and_back_ends|wikipedia description]] describes it in general terms too trying to pretend that any [[GUI|user interface]] is also a [[frontend]]. However, when you look at [[Swing]], you see it being referenced as [[GUI|graphical user interface]], not as a [[frontend]]. As such I believe the meaning of the term is being shifted more and more towards web development. The term [[frontend]] has been kidnapped by the [[JavaScript]] camp few years ago. It no longer means [[Swing]] or [[SWT]], it only means [[DOM]], [[CSS]] &amp;amp; co. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Everyone not deeply knowledgeable of [[Java]] will expect that [[frontend]] means exactly an application running in a browser or in a WebView component (on desktop or mobile phone) written using CSS/DOM/etc.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Everyone not deeply knowledgeable of [[Java]] will expect that [[frontend]] means exactly an application running in a browser or in a WebView component (on desktop or mobile phone) written using CSS/DOM/etc.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;What's your opinion? Does [[frontend]] equals (more or less) to [[HTML]]5 these days?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;What's your opinion? Does [[frontend]] equals (more or less) to [[HTML]]5 these days?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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			<pubDate>Fri, 06 Apr 2018 10:21:49 GMT</pubDate>			<dc:creator>JaroslavTulach</dc:creator>			<comments>http://wiki.apidesign.org/wiki/Talk:Frontend</comments>		</item>
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			<title>JaroslavTulach at 10:21, 6 April 2018</title>
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;-&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Recently we got into a discussion: What [[wikipedia:Front_and_back_ends|frontend]] &lt;del style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;means&lt;/del&gt;?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Recently we got into a discussion: What &lt;ins style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;does &lt;/ins&gt;[[wikipedia:Front_and_back_ends|frontend]] &lt;ins style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;mean&lt;/ins&gt;?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;On one side the term [[frontend] is very generic. It's [[wikipedia:Front_and_back_ends|wikipedia description]] describes it in general terms too trying to pretend that any [[GUI|user interface]] is also a [[frontend]]. However, when you look at [[Swing]], you see it being referenced as [[GUI|graphical user interface]], not as a [[frontend]]. As such I believe the meaning of the term is being shifted more and more towards web development. The term [[frontend]] has been kidnapped by the [[JavaScript]] camp few years ago. It no longer means [[Swing]] or [[SWT]], it only means [[DOM]], [[CSS]] &amp;amp; co. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;On one side the term [[frontend] is very generic. It's [[wikipedia:Front_and_back_ends|wikipedia description]] describes it in general terms too trying to pretend that any [[GUI|user interface]] is also a [[frontend]]. However, when you look at [[Swing]], you see it being referenced as [[GUI|graphical user interface]], not as a [[frontend]]. As such I believe the meaning of the term is being shifted more and more towards web development. The term [[frontend]] has been kidnapped by the [[JavaScript]] camp few years ago. It no longer means [[Swing]] or [[SWT]], it only means [[DOM]], [[CSS]] &amp;amp; co. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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			<pubDate>Fri, 06 Apr 2018 10:21:39 GMT</pubDate>			<dc:creator>JaroslavTulach</dc:creator>			<comments>http://wiki.apidesign.org/wiki/Talk:Frontend</comments>		</item>
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			<title>JaroslavTulach: New page: Recently we got into a discussion: What frontend means?  On one side the term [[frontend] is very generic. It's [[wikipedia:Front_and_back_ends|wikipedia ...</title>
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			<description>&lt;p&gt;New page: Recently we got into a discussion: What &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Front_and_back_ends&quot; class=&quot;extiw&quot; title=&quot;wikipedia:Front_and_back_ends&quot;&gt;frontend&lt;/a&gt; means?  On one side the term [[frontend] is very generic. It's [[wikipedia:Front_and_back_ends|wikipedia ...&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;Recently we got into a discussion: What [[wikipedia:Front_and_back_ends|frontend]] means?&lt;br /&gt;
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On one side the term [[frontend] is very generic. It's [[wikipedia:Front_and_back_ends|wikipedia description]] describes it in general terms too trying to pretend that any [[GUI|user interface]] is also a [[frontend]]. However, when you look at [[Swing]], you see it being referenced as [[GUI|graphical user interface]], not as a [[frontend]]. As such I believe the meaning of the term is being shifted more and more towards web development. The term [[frontend]] has been kidnapped by the [[JavaScript]] camp few years ago. It no longer means [[Swing]] or [[SWT]], it only means [[DOM]], [[CSS]] &amp;amp; co. &lt;br /&gt;
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Everyone not deeply knowledgeable of [[Java]] will expect that [[frontend]] means exactly an application running in a browser or in a WebView component (on desktop or mobile phone) written using CSS/DOM/etc.&lt;br /&gt;
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What's your opinion? Does [[frontend]] equals (more or less) to [[HTML]]5 these days?&lt;/div&gt;</description>
			<pubDate>Fri, 06 Apr 2018 10:21:17 GMT</pubDate>			<dc:creator>JaroslavTulach</dc:creator>			<comments>http://wiki.apidesign.org/wiki/Talk:Frontend</comments>		</item>
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