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			<title>JaroslavTulach at 16:22, 5 April 2009</title>
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;{{:API has to be Correct}}&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;{{:API has to be Correct}}&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;-&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;del style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;== &lt;/del&gt;Mercurial vs. Subversion &lt;del style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;==&lt;/del&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;{{:&lt;/ins&gt;Mercurial vs. Subversion&lt;ins style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;}}&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;-&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;-&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;del style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;One side note in the [[Extreme_Advice_Considered_Harmful|chapter 13]] compares behaviour of [[Mercurial]] and [[Subversion]]. A curious reader sent a comment:&lt;/del&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;-&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;del style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;: Page 241: In the scenario described [[Subversion]] behaves the same way as [[Mercurial]], &lt;/del&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;-&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;del style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;: so it would not be possible to checkin changes without first synchronizing against &lt;/del&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;-&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;del style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;: the HEAD revision (assuming checking goes to HEAD). See, for instance,&lt;/del&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;-&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;del style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;: [http://subversion.tigris.org/faq.html Subversion FAQ], question &lt;/del&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;-&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;del style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;: '''I'm trying to commit, but Subversion says my working copy is out of date?''', answer 3.&lt;/del&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;-&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;-&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;del style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;Looks like sometimes the '''svn up''' is needed. However not in regular workflow. I've just tried:&lt;/del&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;-&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;del style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&amp;lt;source lang=&amp;quot;bash&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;/del&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;-&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;del style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;# create a new file as user A:&lt;/del&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;-&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;del style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;svn co file:///home/jarda/tmp/svn/r/&lt;/del&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;-&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;del style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;echo Hi. &amp;gt;readme.txt&lt;/del&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;-&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;del style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;svn add readme.txt&lt;/del&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;-&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;del style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;svn ci -m &amp;quot;adding readme.txt by user A&amp;quot;&lt;/del&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;-&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;-&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;del style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;# create another new file as user B:&lt;/del&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;-&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;del style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;svn co file:///home/jarda/tmp/svn/r/&lt;/del&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;-&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;del style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;echo &amp;gt;b.txt&lt;/del&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;-&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;del style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;svn add b.txt&lt;/del&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;-&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;del style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;svn ci -m &amp;quot;Adding file b.txt from user B&amp;quot;&lt;/del&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;-&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;-&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;del style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;# now, as user A change the readme file, without updating&lt;/del&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;-&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;del style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;# e.g. without knowing that there is the b.txt file:&lt;/del&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;-&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;del style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;echo Hello &amp;gt;readme.txt&lt;/del&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;-&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;del style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;svn diff&lt;/del&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;-&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;del style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;svn ci -m &amp;quot;Changing content of file readme.txt as A, without updating to B's latest version&amp;quot;&lt;/del&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;-&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;-&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;del style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;This is a significant difference between [[Subversion]] and [[Mercurial]]. [[Subversion]] lets the user A integrate changes without knowing what the final state after the integration will be. Seen from rationalistic point of view, this is not ''correct''. [[Mercurial]] would refuse such integration asking the user A to '''svn update''' to latest version of the repository first. This is the correct behaviour. However it is not really [[cluelessness|clueless]] and enormous majority of developers I know is complaining about such [[Mercurial]] restrictions. This is another example of ''correct but complex'' behaviour.&lt;/del&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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			<pubDate>Sun, 05 Apr 2009 16:22:35 GMT</pubDate>			<dc:creator>JaroslavTulach</dc:creator>			<comments>http://wiki.apidesign.org/wiki/Talk:Extreme_Advice_Considered_Harmful</comments>		</item>
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			<title>JaroslavTulach: /* Mercurial vs. Subversion */</title>
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			<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;autocomment&quot;&gt;Mercurial vs. Subversion&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;== Mercurial vs. Subversion ==&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;== Mercurial vs. Subversion ==&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;-&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;One side note in &lt;del style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;this &lt;/del&gt;chapter compares behaviour of &lt;del style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;mercurial &lt;/del&gt;and &lt;del style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;subversion&lt;/del&gt;. A curious reader sent a comment:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;One side note in &lt;ins style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;the [[Extreme_Advice_Considered_Harmful|&lt;/ins&gt;chapter &lt;ins style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;13]] &lt;/ins&gt;compares behaviour of &lt;ins style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;[[Mercurial]] &lt;/ins&gt;and &lt;ins style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;[[Subversion]]&lt;/ins&gt;. A curious reader sent a comment:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;-&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;: Page 241: In the scenario described Subversion behaves the same way as Mercurial, &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;: Page 241: In the scenario described &lt;ins style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;[[&lt;/ins&gt;Subversion&lt;ins style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;]] &lt;/ins&gt;behaves the same way as &lt;ins style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;[[&lt;/ins&gt;Mercurial&lt;ins style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;]]&lt;/ins&gt;, &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;: so it would not be possible to checkin changes without first synchronizing against &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;: so it would not be possible to checkin changes without first synchronizing against &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;: the HEAD revision (assuming checking goes to HEAD). See, for instance,&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;: the HEAD revision (assuming checking goes to HEAD). See, for instance,&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;/source&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;/source&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;-&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;This is a significant difference between [[Subversion]] and [[Mercurial]]. [[Subversion]] &lt;del style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;let &lt;/del&gt;the user A &lt;del style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;to &lt;/del&gt;integrate changes without knowing what the final state after the integration will be. Seen from rationalistic point of view, this is not ''correct''. [[Mercurial]] would refuse such integration asking the user A to '''svn update''' to latest version of the repository first. This is the correct behaviour. However it is not really [[cluelessness|clueless]] and enormous majority of developers I know is complaining about &lt;del style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;the &lt;/del&gt;[[Mercurial]] restrictions.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;This is a significant difference between [[Subversion]] and [[Mercurial]]. [[Subversion]] &lt;ins style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;lets &lt;/ins&gt;the user A integrate changes without knowing what the final state after the integration will be. Seen from rationalistic point of view, this is not ''correct''. [[Mercurial]] would refuse such integration asking the user A to '''svn update''' to latest version of the repository first. This is the correct behaviour. However it is not really [[cluelessness|clueless]] and enormous majority of developers I know is complaining about &lt;ins style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;such &lt;/ins&gt;[[Mercurial]] restrictions&lt;ins style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;. This is another example of ''correct but complex'' behaviour&lt;/ins&gt;.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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			<title>JaroslavTulach at 15:51, 5 April 2009</title>
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;{{:API has to be Correct}}&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;{{:API has to be Correct}}&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;== Mercurial vs. Subversion ==&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;One side note in this chapter compares behaviour of mercurial and subversion. A curious reader sent a comment:&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;: Page 241: In the scenario described Subversion behaves the same way as Mercurial, &lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;: so it would not be possible to checkin changes without first synchronizing against &lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;: the HEAD revision (assuming checking goes to HEAD). See, for instance,&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;: [http://subversion.tigris.org/faq.html Subversion FAQ], question &lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;: '''I'm trying to commit, but Subversion says my working copy is out of date?''', answer 3.&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;Looks like sometimes the '''svn up''' is needed. However not in regular workflow. I've just tried:&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&amp;lt;source lang=&amp;quot;bash&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;# create a new file as user A:&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;svn co file:///home/jarda/tmp/svn/r/&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;echo Hi. &amp;gt;readme.txt&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;svn add readme.txt&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;svn ci -m &amp;quot;adding readme.txt by user A&amp;quot;&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;# create another new file as user B:&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;svn co file:///home/jarda/tmp/svn/r/&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;echo &amp;gt;b.txt&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;svn add b.txt&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;svn ci -m &amp;quot;Adding file b.txt from user B&amp;quot;&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;# now, as user A change the readme file, without updating&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;# e.g. without knowing that there is the b.txt file:&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;echo Hello &amp;gt;readme.txt&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;svn diff&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;svn ci -m &amp;quot;Changing content of file readme.txt as A, without updating to B's latest version&amp;quot;&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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			<pubDate>Sun, 05 Apr 2009 15:51:49 GMT</pubDate>			<dc:creator>JaroslavTulach</dc:creator>			<comments>http://wiki.apidesign.org/wiki/Talk:Extreme_Advice_Considered_Harmful</comments>		</item>
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			<title>JaroslavTulach at 15:42, 23 January 2009</title>
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;One of the the worst things to do is to follow advice completely, to the extreme. The [[Extreme Advice Considered Harmful|chapter 13]] builds on the [[wikipedia::Considered_harmful|Considered harmful]] phrase and expands it meaning into the world of API Design.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;One of the the worst things to do is to follow advice completely, to the extreme. The [[Extreme Advice Considered Harmful|chapter 13]] builds on the [[wikipedia::Considered_harmful|Considered harmful]] phrase and expands it meaning into the world of API Design.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;-&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;del style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;=== &lt;/del&gt;API has to be Correct&lt;del style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;: Prehistoric I/O ===&lt;/del&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;{{:&lt;/ins&gt;API has to be Correct}&lt;ins style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;}&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;-&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;-&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;del style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;One of the advices that can often cause more harm than be useful, is the attempt to make an [[API]] fully correct. Well, nothing about correctness, correct version of an [[API]] is better than incorrect one, in case all other features of those two versions are on par. But often, in the search for correctness one sacrifices simplicity.&lt;/del&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;-&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;-&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;del style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;An example of this can be found in [[Java]]'s '''java.io.File'''. Have you ever tried to read a content of a file in [[Java]]? Painful, isn't it? Instead of having a single method to load file's content into a '''String''', one needs to allocate an array, write a loop to populate it and only than convert it into so desired '''String'''. I wrote that code many times, especially as a utility method in a unit test, so I at least know how to do it. However imagine a newcomer, a refugee from [[Perl]], trying to rewrite a single line of such I/O [[Perl]] code to [[Java]]. How can such trivial task be so complex!? Why we cannot have simple methods like:&lt;/del&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;-&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;del style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&amp;lt;source lang=&amp;quot;java&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;/del&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;-&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;del style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;File f = new File(&amp;quot;config.txt&amp;quot;);&lt;/del&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;-&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;del style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;String text = f.asText();&lt;/del&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;-&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;del style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;byte[] arr = f.asBytes();&lt;/del&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;-&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;del style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;for (String line : f.asLines()) {&lt;/del&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;-&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;del style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;  ...&lt;/del&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;-&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;-&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;del style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;I explain this unnecessary complexity as a result of an ''extreme search for correctness''. Plus a little bit of ''copy based design''. Reading done in the [[Java]] way almost completely mimics the [[C]] style. E.g. ''malloc'' a bit of memory, read data into it, process them, read additional data, etc. This [[C]] way is known to be correct, never exhaust available memory and be robust even for use in operating systems. As such the designers of the [[Java]] I/O libraries just copied this correct and well-working principle.&lt;/del&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;-&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;-&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;del style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;Nobody of its designers considered it too complicated, as they were familiar with it from their [[C]] days. In fact it is not that complex compared to other [[C]] constructs. Just try to concatenate two [[C]] strings and you'll find out how verbose that code is. The [[C]] libraries leave the memory manipulation up to the programmer. However [[Java]] is different, concatenating strings is a matter of single ''+''. Memory is allocated and freed automatically as needed. [[API]] users usually do not need to care. And they like it. As such the [[Java]] I/O [[API]] for reading from a file seems like a relict of [[wikipedia::Stone Age|stone age]]. So complex and hard to use (but correct).&lt;/del&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;-&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;-&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;del style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;For a while I was advocating the [[Java]] I/O library to be enhanced with simple reading utility methods. However that takes time. But a few weeks later I realized that we do not need to wait! The [[NetBeans]] project has own ''virtual filesystem'' library and we can add the methods there! Today I started an [[APIReview|API review]] to provide simple I/O reading [[API]] (see issue [http://openide.netbeans.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=157362 157362]) in the '''FileObject''' class. &lt;/del&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;-&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;del style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;Users of [[NetBeans]] 7.0 [[API]]s, say farewell to painful reading of files! And please accept my apology for using ''copy based design'' and realizing only recently that our users could benefit from our own simple '''asText()''', '''asBytes()''', and '''asLines''' utility methods.&lt;/del&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;One of the the worst things to do is to follow advice completely, to the extreme. The [[Extreme Advice Considered Harmful|chapter 13]] builds on the [[wikipedia::Considered_harmful|Considered harmful]] phrase and expands it meaning into the world of API Design.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;One of the the worst things to do is to follow advice completely, to the extreme. The [[Extreme Advice Considered Harmful|chapter 13]] builds on the [[wikipedia::Considered_harmful|Considered harmful]] phrase and expands it meaning into the world of API Design.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;-&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;=== API has to be Correct: &lt;del style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;Prehistory &lt;/del&gt;I/O ===&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;=== API has to be Correct: &lt;ins style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;Prehistoric &lt;/ins&gt;I/O ===&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;One of the advices that can often cause more harm than be useful, is the attempt to make an [[API]] fully correct. Well, nothing about correctness, correct version of an [[API]] is better than incorrect one, in case all other features of those two versions are on par. But often, in the search for correctness one sacrifices simplicity.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;One of the advices that can often cause more harm than be useful, is the attempt to make an [[API]] fully correct. Well, nothing about correctness, correct version of an [[API]] is better than incorrect one, in case all other features of those two versions are on par. But often, in the search for correctness one sacrifices simplicity.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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			<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 15:26:29 GMT</pubDate>			<dc:creator>JaroslavTulach</dc:creator>			<comments>http://wiki.apidesign.org/wiki/Talk:Extreme_Advice_Considered_Harmful</comments>		</item>
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;One of the the worst things to do is to follow advice completely, to the extreme. The [[Extreme Advice Considered Harmful|chapter 13]] builds on the [[wikipedia::Considered_harmful|Considered harmful]] phrase and expands it meaning into the world of API Design.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;One of the the worst things to do is to follow advice completely, to the extreme. The [[Extreme Advice Considered Harmful|chapter 13]] builds on the [[wikipedia::Considered_harmful|Considered harmful]] phrase and expands it meaning into the world of API Design.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;-&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;=== API has to be Correct ===&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;=== API has to be Correct&lt;ins style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;: Prehistory I/O &lt;/ins&gt;===&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;One of the advices that can often cause more harm than be useful, is the attempt to make an [[API]] fully correct. Well, nothing about correctness, correct version of an [[API]] is better than incorrect one, in case all other features of those two versions are on par. But often, in the search for correctness one sacrifices simplicity.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;One of the advices that can often cause more harm than be useful, is the attempt to make an [[API]] fully correct. Well, nothing about correctness, correct version of an [[API]] is better than incorrect one, in case all other features of those two versions are on par. But often, in the search for correctness one sacrifices simplicity.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Nobody of its designers considered it too complicated, as they were familiar with it from their [[C]] days. In fact it is not that complex compared to other [[C]] constructs. Just try to concatenate two [[C]] strings and you'll find out how verbose that code is. The [[C]] libraries leave the memory manipulation up to the programmer. However [[Java]] is different, concatenating strings is a matter of single ''+''. Memory is allocated and freed automatically as needed. [[API]] users usually do not need to care. And they like it. As such the [[Java]] I/O [[API]] for reading from a file seems like a relict of [[wikipedia::Stone Age|stone age]]. So complex and hard to use (but correct).&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Nobody of its designers considered it too complicated, as they were familiar with it from their [[C]] days. In fact it is not that complex compared to other [[C]] constructs. Just try to concatenate two [[C]] strings and you'll find out how verbose that code is. The [[C]] libraries leave the memory manipulation up to the programmer. However [[Java]] is different, concatenating strings is a matter of single ''+''. Memory is allocated and freed automatically as needed. [[API]] users usually do not need to care. And they like it. As such the [[Java]] I/O [[API]] for reading from a file seems like a relict of [[wikipedia::Stone Age|stone age]]. So complex and hard to use (but correct).&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;-&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;For a while I was advocating the [[Java]] I/O library to be enhanced with simple reading utility methods. However that takes time. But a few weeks later I realized that we do not need to wait! The [[NetBeans]] project has own ''virtual filesystem'' library and we can add the methods there! Today I started an [[API &lt;del style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;Review&lt;/del&gt;]] to provide simple I/O reading [[API]] (see issue [http://openide.netbeans.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=157362 157362]). &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;For a while I was advocating the [[Java]] I/O library to be enhanced with simple reading utility methods. However that takes time. But a few weeks later I realized that we do not need to wait! The [[NetBeans]] project has own ''virtual filesystem'' library and we can add the methods there! Today I started an [[&lt;ins style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;APIReview|&lt;/ins&gt;API &lt;ins style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;review&lt;/ins&gt;]] to provide simple I/O reading [[API]] (see issue [http://openide.netbeans.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=157362 157362]) &lt;ins style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;in the '''FileObject''' class&lt;/ins&gt;. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;-&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Users of [[NetBeans]] 7.0 [[API]]s, say farewell to painful reading of files! And please accept my apology for using ''copy based design'' and realizing only recently that our users could benefit from our own '''asText()''', '''asBytes()''', and '''asLines''' methods.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Users of [[NetBeans]] 7.0 [[API]]s, say farewell to painful reading of files! And please accept my apology for using ''copy based design'' and realizing only recently that our users could benefit from our own &lt;ins style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;simple &lt;/ins&gt;'''asText()''', '''asBytes()''', and '''asLines''' &lt;ins style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;utility &lt;/ins&gt;methods.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;One of the advices that can often cause more harm than be useful, is the attempt to make an [[API]] fully correct. Well, nothing about correctness, correct version of an [[API]] is better than incorrect one, in case all other features of those two versions are on par. But often, in the search for correctness one sacrifices simplicity.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;One of the advices that can often cause more harm than be useful, is the attempt to make an [[API]] fully correct. Well, nothing about correctness, correct version of an [[API]] is better than incorrect one, in case all other features of those two versions are on par. But often, in the search for correctness one sacrifices simplicity.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;-&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;An example of this can be &lt;del style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;seen &lt;/del&gt;in [[Java]]'s '''java.io.File'''. Have you ever tried to read a content of a file in [[Java]]? Painful, isn't it? &lt;del style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;I have when I have to write that code as instead &lt;/del&gt;of &lt;del style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;loading &lt;/del&gt;a file content into a '''String''', one needs to allocate an array, write a loop to populate it and only than convert it into so desired &lt;del style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;string&lt;/del&gt;. I wrote that code many times, especially as a utility method in a unit test, so I at least know how to do it. However imagine a newcomer, a refugee from [[Perl]], trying to rewrite a single line of [[Perl]] code to [[Java]]&lt;del style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;. One needs to allocate the array, understand concept of '''FileInputStream''', etc&lt;/del&gt;. How can such trivial task be so complex!? Why we cannot have simple methods like:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;An example of this can be &lt;ins style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;found &lt;/ins&gt;in [[Java]]'s '''java.io.File'''. Have you ever tried to read a content of a file in [[Java]]? Painful, isn't it? &lt;ins style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;Instead &lt;/ins&gt;of &lt;ins style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;having &lt;/ins&gt;a &lt;ins style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;single method to load &lt;/ins&gt;file&lt;ins style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;'s &lt;/ins&gt;content into a '''String''', one needs to allocate an array, write a loop to populate it and only than convert it into so desired &lt;ins style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;'''String'''&lt;/ins&gt;. I wrote that code many times, especially as a utility method in a unit test, so I at least know how to do it. However imagine a newcomer, a refugee from [[Perl]], trying to rewrite a single line of &lt;ins style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;such I/O &lt;/ins&gt;[[Perl]] code to [[Java]]. How can such trivial task be so complex!? Why we cannot have simple methods like:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;-&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;I &lt;del style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;explanation &lt;/del&gt;this unnecessary complexity &lt;del style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;is &lt;/del&gt;as an extreme search for correctness. Plus little bit of ''copy based design''. &lt;del style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;The way reading is &lt;/del&gt;done in [[Java]] &lt;del style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;is &lt;/del&gt;the &lt;del style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;same as it is in &lt;/del&gt;[[C]]. E.g. ''malloc'' a bit of memory, read data into it, process them, read additional data, etc. This [[C]] way is &lt;del style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;know &lt;/del&gt;to be correct, never exhaust available memory and be robust even for &lt;del style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;design of &lt;/del&gt;operating systems. As such the designers of the [[Java]] I/O libraries just copied this correct and well-working principle.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;I &lt;ins style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;explain &lt;/ins&gt;this unnecessary complexity as &lt;ins style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;a result of &lt;/ins&gt;an &lt;ins style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;''&lt;/ins&gt;extreme search for correctness&lt;ins style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;''&lt;/ins&gt;. Plus &lt;ins style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;a &lt;/ins&gt;little bit of ''copy based design''. &lt;ins style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;Reading &lt;/ins&gt;done in &lt;ins style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;the &lt;/ins&gt;[[Java]] &lt;ins style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;way almost completely mimics &lt;/ins&gt;the [[C]] &lt;ins style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;style&lt;/ins&gt;. E.g. ''malloc'' a bit of memory, read data into it, process them, read additional data, etc. This [[C]] way is &lt;ins style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;known &lt;/ins&gt;to be correct, never exhaust available memory and be robust even for &lt;ins style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;use in &lt;/ins&gt;operating systems. As such the designers of the [[Java]] I/O libraries just copied this correct and well-working principle.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;-&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Nobody of its designers considered it too complicated, as they were familiar with it from their [[C]] days. In fact it is not that complex compared to other [[C]] constructs. Just try to concatenate two strings and you'll find out how verbose that code is. The [[C]] libraries leave the memory manipulation up to the programmer. However [[Java]] is different, concatenating strings is a matter of single ''+''. Memory is allocated and freed automatically as needed. [[API]] users usually do not need to care. And they like it. As such the [[Java]] I/O [[API]] for reading from a file seems like a relict of [[wikipedia::Stone Age|stone age]]. So complex and hard to use (but correct).&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Nobody of its designers considered it too complicated, as they were familiar with it from their [[C]] days. In fact it is not that complex compared to other [[C]] constructs. Just try to concatenate two &lt;ins style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;[[C]] &lt;/ins&gt;strings and you'll find out how verbose that code is. The [[C]] libraries leave the memory manipulation up to the programmer. However [[Java]] is different, concatenating strings is a matter of single ''+''. Memory is allocated and freed automatically as needed. [[API]] users usually do not need to care. And they like it. As such the [[Java]] I/O [[API]] for reading from a file seems like a relict of [[wikipedia::Stone Age|stone age]]. So complex and hard to use (but correct).&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;-&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;For a while I was advocating the [[Java]] library to be enhanced with simple reading utility methods. However &lt;del style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;only &lt;/del&gt;few weeks later I realized that &lt;del style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;in fact, &lt;/del&gt;we do not need to wait! The [[NetBeans]] project has own ''virtual filesystem'' library and we can add the methods there! Today &lt;del style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;I am proud to announce that &lt;/del&gt;I started an [[API]] &lt;del style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;review &lt;/del&gt;to &lt;del style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;do that &lt;/del&gt;(see issue [http://openide.netbeans.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=157362 157362]). &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;For a while I was advocating the [[Java]] &lt;ins style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;I/O &lt;/ins&gt;library to be enhanced with simple reading utility methods. However &lt;ins style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;that takes time. But a &lt;/ins&gt;few weeks later I realized that we do not need to wait! The [[NetBeans]] project has own ''virtual filesystem'' library and we can add the methods there! Today I started an [[API &lt;ins style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;Review&lt;/ins&gt;]] to &lt;ins style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;provide simple I/O reading [[API]] &lt;/ins&gt;(see issue [http://openide.netbeans.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=157362 157362]). &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;-&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Users of [[NetBeans]] 7.0 [[API]]s, say farewell to painful reading of files! And please accept my apology for using copy based design and realizing only &lt;del style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;so late &lt;/del&gt;that our users &lt;del style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;might use those &lt;/del&gt;'''asText()''', '''asBytes()''', and '''asLines''' methods.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Users of [[NetBeans]] 7.0 [[API]]s, say farewell to painful reading of files! And please accept my apology for using &lt;ins style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;''&lt;/ins&gt;copy based design&lt;ins style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;'' &lt;/ins&gt;and realizing only &lt;ins style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;recently &lt;/ins&gt;that our users &lt;ins style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;could benefit from our own &lt;/ins&gt;'''asText()''', '''asBytes()''', and '''asLines''' methods.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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			<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 15:18:56 GMT</pubDate>			<dc:creator>JaroslavTulach</dc:creator>			<comments>http://wiki.apidesign.org/wiki/Talk:Extreme_Advice_Considered_Harmful</comments>		</item>
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;I've just finished reading the theoretical and practical parts of your book, are you saying me that I have to apply all your advices to be successful? No, not at all.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;I've just finished reading the theoretical and practical parts of your book, are you saying me that I have to apply all your advices to be successful? No, not at all.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;One of the the worst things to do is to follow advice completely, to the extreme. The [[Extreme Advice Considered Harmful|chapter 13]] builds on the [[wikipedia::Considered_harmful|Considered harmful]] phrase and expands it meaning into the world of API Design.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;One of the the worst things to do is to follow advice completely, to the extreme. The [[Extreme Advice Considered Harmful|chapter 13]] builds on the [[wikipedia::Considered_harmful|Considered harmful]] phrase and expands it meaning into the world of API Design.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;=== API has to be Correct ===&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;One of the advices that can often cause more harm than be useful, is the attempt to make an [[API]] fully correct. Well, nothing about correctness, correct version of an [[API]] is better than incorrect one, in case all other features of those two versions are on par. But often, in the search for correctness one sacrifices simplicity.&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;An example of this can be seen in [[Java]]'s '''java.io.File'''. Have you ever tried to read a content of a file in [[Java]]? Painful, isn't it? I have when I have to write that code as instead of loading a file content into a '''String''', one needs to allocate an array, write a loop to populate it and only than convert it into so desired string. I wrote that code many times, especially as a utility method in a unit test, so I at least know how to do it. However imagine a newcomer, a refugee from [[Perl]], trying to rewrite a single line of [[Perl]] code to [[Java]]. One needs to allocate the array, understand concept of '''FileInputStream''', etc. How can such trivial task be so complex!? Why we cannot have simple methods like:&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;File f = new File(&amp;quot;config.txt&amp;quot;);&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;String text = f.asText();&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;for (String line : f.asLines()) {&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;I explanation this unnecessary complexity is as an extreme search for correctness. Plus little bit of ''copy based design''. The way reading is done in [[Java]] is the same as it is in [[C]]. E.g. ''malloc'' a bit of memory, read data into it, process them, read additional data, etc. This [[C]] way is know to be correct, never exhaust available memory and be robust even for design of operating systems. As such the designers of the [[Java]] I/O libraries just copied this correct and well-working principle.&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;Nobody of its designers considered it too complicated, as they were familiar with it from their [[C]] days. In fact it is not that complex compared to other [[C]] constructs. Just try to concatenate two strings and you'll find out how verbose that code is. The [[C]] libraries leave the memory manipulation up to the programmer. However [[Java]] is different, concatenating strings is a matter of single ''+''. Memory is allocated and freed automatically as needed. [[API]] users usually do not need to care. And they like it. As such the [[Java]] I/O [[API]] for reading from a file seems like a relict of [[wikipedia::Stone Age|stone age]]. So complex and hard to use (but correct).&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;For a while I was advocating the [[Java]] library to be enhanced with simple reading utility methods. However only few weeks later I realized that in fact, we do not need to wait! The [[NetBeans]] project has own ''virtual filesystem'' library and we can add the methods there! Today I am proud to announce that I started an [[API]] review to do that (see issue [http://openide.netbeans.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=157362 157362]). &lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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			<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 14:58:42 GMT</pubDate>			<dc:creator>JaroslavTulach</dc:creator>			<comments>http://wiki.apidesign.org/wiki/Talk:Extreme_Advice_Considered_Harmful</comments>		</item>
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;-&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;I've just finished the theoretical and practical parts of your book, are you saying me that I have to apply all your advices to be successful? No, not at all.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;I've just finished &lt;ins style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;reading &lt;/ins&gt;the theoretical and practical parts of your book, are you saying me that I have to apply all your advices to be successful? No, not at all.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;One of the the worst things to do is to follow advice completely, to the extreme. The [[Extreme Advice Considered Harmful|chapter 13]] builds on the [[wikipedia::Considered_harmful|Considered harmful]] phrase and expands it meaning into the world of API Design.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;One of the the worst things to do is to follow advice completely, to the extreme. The [[Extreme Advice Considered Harmful|chapter 13]] builds on the [[wikipedia::Considered_harmful|Considered harmful]] phrase and expands it meaning into the world of API Design.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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