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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;[[Bode]] complains that for a while, around 1997 he could not find good enough skis to turn. [[Bode]] also admits that his snowboard experience showed him what capabilities skis should have. At the end of 1996 (during the winter design trip the [[Xelfi]] team decided to have), I had the chance to try snowboarding for the first time. It went surprisingly well, thus I bought my first [[wikipedia:de:Nidecker|Nidecker]] board. Snowboard was immediately on par with my [[wikipedia:Völkl|Völkl P30]]. However the progress have not stopped. In 1998 I had the chance to use [[wikipedia:Völkl|Völkl Rentiger]] snowboard. Immediately I gave up on skis - the rentiger snowboard was just so much easier to turn!&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;[[Bode]] complains that for a while, around 1997 he could not find good enough skis to turn. [[Bode]] also admits that his snowboard experience showed him what capabilities skis should have. At the end of 1996 (during the winter design trip the [[Xelfi]] team decided to have), I had the chance to try snowboarding for the first time. It went surprisingly well, thus I bought my first [[wikipedia:de:Nidecker|Nidecker]] board. Snowboard was immediately on par with my [[wikipedia:Völkl|Völkl P30]]. However the progress have not stopped. In 1998 I had the chance to use [[wikipedia:Völkl|Völkl Rentiger]] snowboard. Immediately I gave up on skis - the rentiger snowboard was just so much easier to turn!&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;-&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;[[Bode]] mentions this in one or two paragraphs of his book. At that time the snowboard was easier to make turns than skis. But (unlike me) [[Bode]] has not given up and waited for skis that &lt;del style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;will &lt;/del&gt;be at least comparable to snowboard. Looks like he succeeded (being Olympic medalist in 2002 and 2006). &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;[[Bode]] mentions this in one or two paragraphs of his book. At that time the snowboard was easier to make turns than skis. But (unlike me) [[Bode]] has not given up and waited for skis that &lt;ins style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;would &lt;/ins&gt;be at least comparable to snowboard. Looks like he succeeded (being Olympic medalist in 2002 and 2006). &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;When struggling with an [[API]], don't give up and don't workaround it. Change it! Make the system better. Become an [[API]] designer, contribute patches. Push the limits like [[BodeMiller]] did!&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;When struggling with an [[API]], don't give up and don't workaround it. Change it! Make the system better. Become an [[API]] designer, contribute patches. Push the limits like [[BodeMiller]] did!&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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			<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2020 04:17:04 GMT</pubDate>			<dc:creator>JaroslavTulach</dc:creator>			<comments>http://wiki.apidesign.org/wiki/Talk:BodeMiller</comments>		</item>
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			<title>JaroslavTulach at 04:14, 6 May 2020</title>
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Can we apply that to [[API]] design? Sure, because we often have to ask whether it is more important to be [[BackwardCompatibility|backward compatible]] or have nice internals of our libraries. I am amazed that the philosophy of a ski racer (be faster than have a nice style) is the same as a philosophy of a [[good]] [[API]] designer! &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Can we apply that to [[API]] design? Sure, because we often have to ask whether it is more important to be [[BackwardCompatibility|backward compatible]] or have nice internals of our libraries. I am amazed that the philosophy of a ski racer (be faster than have a nice style) is the same as a philosophy of a [[good]] [[API]] designer! &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;-&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Why should we believe in old those advices telling us that ''clean code'' is going to help us? Sure, if we teach many people [[good]] style, some of them may get fast. But you can be fast, without having a [[good]] style. You can have [[good]] [[API]] even if the internals are not nice. Calling for a clean code is like asking [[Bode]] to finish the race!&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Why should we believe in old those advices telling us that ''clean code'' is going to help us? Sure, if we teach many people [[good]] style, some of them may get fast. But you can be fast, without having a [[good]] style. You can have [[good]] [[API]] even if the internals are not nice. Calling for a clean code is like asking [[Bode]] to finish the race &lt;ins style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;at any cost&lt;/ins&gt;!&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;''Editorial note:'' [[Bode]] was famous for not finishing a lot of races due to too wild ride. But when he finished, he usually won.&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;== Woods ==&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;== Woods ==&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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			<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2020 04:14:41 GMT</pubDate>			<dc:creator>JaroslavTulach</dc:creator>			<comments>http://wiki.apidesign.org/wiki/Talk:BodeMiller</comments>		</item>
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			<title>JaroslavTulach at 05:41, 8 February 2012</title>
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;-&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;For the last decade [[wikipedia:Bode Miller|Bode Miller]] is the most famous American sportsman (at least in [[wikipedia:Austria|Austria]]; as [[wikipedia:Austria|Austria]] is the country dedicated to alpin skiing). [[Bode]] decided to write a [https://www.amazon.com/dp/1400062357/ref=as_li_qf_sp_asin_til?tag=apidesignorg-20&amp;amp;camp=0&amp;amp;creative=0&amp;amp;linkCode=as1&amp;amp;creativeASIN=1400062357&amp;amp;adid=1ZB8WA7WQ704F29T1RXY&amp;amp; &lt;del style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;bibliography&lt;/del&gt;] and I had the chance to read it during 2011 Christmas break. It is an amazing book. It can even help us better understand  the [[API]] design!&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;For the last decade [[wikipedia:Bode Miller|Bode Miller]] is the most famous American sportsman (at least in [[wikipedia:Austria|Austria]]; as [[wikipedia:Austria|Austria]] is the country dedicated to alpin skiing). [[Bode]] decided to write a [https://www.amazon.com/dp/1400062357/ref=as_li_qf_sp_asin_til?tag=apidesignorg-20&amp;amp;camp=0&amp;amp;creative=0&amp;amp;linkCode=as1&amp;amp;creativeASIN=1400062357&amp;amp;adid=1ZB8WA7WQ704F29T1RXY&amp;amp; &lt;ins style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;biography&lt;/ins&gt;] and I had the chance to read it during 2011 Christmas break. It is an amazing book. It can even help us better understand  the [[API]] design!&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;I have found [[Bode]]'s book interesting for at least three reasons. The question is how to present it in an interesting way for expected audience of this [[Main_Page|website]]? I'll do it with three easy to remember quotations.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;I have found [[Bode]]'s book interesting for at least three reasons. The question is how to present it in an interesting way for expected audience of this [[Main_Page|website]]? I'll do it with three easy to remember quotations.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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			<pubDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2012 05:41:35 GMT</pubDate>			<dc:creator>JaroslavTulach</dc:creator>			<comments>http://wiki.apidesign.org/wiki/Talk:BodeMiller</comments>		</item>
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;[[Bode]] mentions this in one or two paragraphs of his book. At that time the snowboard was easier to make turns than skis. But (unlike me) [[Bode]] has not given up and waited for skis that will be at least comparable to snowboard. Looks like he succeeded (being Olympic medalist in 2002 and 2006). &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;[[Bode]] mentions this in one or two paragraphs of his book. At that time the snowboard was easier to make turns than skis. But (unlike me) [[Bode]] has not given up and waited for skis that will be at least comparable to snowboard. Looks like he succeeded (being Olympic medalist in 2002 and 2006). &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;-&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;When struggling with an [[API]], don't give up and don't workaround it. Change it! Make the system better. Become an [[API]] designer, contribute patches. Push the limits like [[&lt;del style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;Bode&lt;/del&gt;]] did!&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;When struggling with an [[API]], don't give up and don't workaround it. Change it! Make the system better. Become an [[API]] designer, contribute patches. Push the limits like [[&lt;ins style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;BodeMiller&lt;/ins&gt;]] did!&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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			<pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2012 14:04:48 GMT</pubDate>			<dc:creator>JaroslavTulach</dc:creator>			<comments>http://wiki.apidesign.org/wiki/Talk:BodeMiller</comments>		</item>
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;[[Bode]] complains that for a while, around 1997 he could not find good enough skis to turn. [[Bode]] also admits that his snowboard experience showed him what capabilities skis should have. At the end of 1996 (during the winter design trip the [[Xelfi]] team decided to have), I had the chance to try snowboarding for the first time. It went surprisingly well, thus I bought my first [[wikipedia:de:Nidecker|Nidecker]] board. Snowboard was immediately on par with my [[wikipedia:Völkl|Völkl P30]]. However the progress have not stopped. In 1998 I had the chance to use [[wikipedia:Völkl|Völkl Rentiger]] snowboard. Immediately I gave up on skis - the rentiger snowboard was just so much easier to turn!&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;[[Bode]] complains that for a while, around 1997 he could not find good enough skis to turn. [[Bode]] also admits that his snowboard experience showed him what capabilities skis should have. At the end of 1996 (during the winter design trip the [[Xelfi]] team decided to have), I had the chance to try snowboarding for the first time. It went surprisingly well, thus I bought my first [[wikipedia:de:Nidecker|Nidecker]] board. Snowboard was immediately on par with my [[wikipedia:Völkl|Völkl P30]]. However the progress have not stopped. In 1998 I had the chance to use [[wikipedia:Völkl|Völkl Rentiger]] snowboard. Immediately I gave up on skis - the rentiger snowboard was just so much easier to turn!&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;-&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;[[Bode]] mentions this in one or two paragraphs of his book. At that time the snowboard was easier to make turns than skis. But (unlike me) [[Bode]] has not given up and waited for skis that will be at least comparable to snowboard. Looks like he succeeded (being Olympic medalist in 2002 and 2006)&lt;del style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;. I have not returned back to ski up until 2007, before I needed to ''walk around'' my children (which is easier with skis than snowboard). Up until then snowboard was much more fun to use&lt;/del&gt;.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;[[Bode]] mentions this in one or two paragraphs of his book. At that time the snowboard was easier to make turns than skis. But (unlike me) [[Bode]] has not given up and waited for skis that will be at least comparable to snowboard. Looks like he succeeded (being Olympic medalist in 2002 and 2006). &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;When struggling with an [[API]], don't give up and don't workaround it. Change it! Make the system better. Become an [[API]] designer, contribute patches. Push the limits like [[Bode]] did!&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;When struggling with an [[API]], don't give up and don't workaround it. Change it! Make the system better. Become an [[API]] designer, contribute patches. Push the limits like [[Bode]] did!&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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			<pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2012 14:04:33 GMT</pubDate>			<dc:creator>JaroslavTulach</dc:creator>			<comments>http://wiki.apidesign.org/wiki/Talk:BodeMiller</comments>		</item>
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			<title>JaroslavTulach: /* Skiing */</title>
			<link>http://wiki.apidesign.org/index.php?title=BodeMiller&amp;diff=5484&amp;oldid=prev</link>
			<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;autocomment&quot;&gt;Skiing&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;[[Bode]] complains that for a while, around 1997 he could not find good enough skis to turn. [[Bode]] also admits that his snowboard experience showed him what capabilities skis should have. At the end of 1996 (during the winter design trip the [[Xelfi]] team decided to have), I had the chance to try snowboarding for the first time. It went surprisingly well, thus I bought my first [[wikipedia:de:Nidecker|Nidecker]] board. Snowboard was immediately on par with my [[wikipedia:Völkl|Völkl P30]]. However the progress have not stopped. In 1998 I had the chance to use [[wikipedia:Völkl|Völkl Rentiger]] snowboard. Immediately I gave up on skis - the rentiger snowboard was just so much easier to turn!&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;[[Bode]] complains that for a while, around 1997 he could not find good enough skis to turn. [[Bode]] also admits that his snowboard experience showed him what capabilities skis should have. At the end of 1996 (during the winter design trip the [[Xelfi]] team decided to have), I had the chance to try snowboarding for the first time. It went surprisingly well, thus I bought my first [[wikipedia:de:Nidecker|Nidecker]] board. Snowboard was immediately on par with my [[wikipedia:Völkl|Völkl P30]]. However the progress have not stopped. In 1998 I had the chance to use [[wikipedia:Völkl|Völkl Rentiger]] snowboard. Immediately I gave up on skis - the rentiger snowboard was just so much easier to turn!&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;-&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;[[Bode]] mentions this in one or two paragraphs of his book. At that time the snowboard was easier to make turns than skis. But (unlike me) [[Bode]] has not given up and waited for skis that will be at least comparable to snowboard. Looks like he succeeded (being Olympic medalist &lt;del style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;at &lt;/del&gt;2002 and 2006). I have not returned back to ski up until 2007, before I needed to ''walk around'' my children (which is easier with skis than snowboard). Up until then snowboard was much more fun to use.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;[[Bode]] mentions this in one or two paragraphs of his book. At that time the snowboard was easier to make turns than skis. But (unlike me) [[Bode]] has not given up and waited for skis that will be at least comparable to snowboard. Looks like he succeeded (being Olympic medalist &lt;ins style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;in &lt;/ins&gt;2002 and 2006). I have not returned back to ski up until 2007, before I needed to ''walk around'' my children (which is easier with skis than snowboard). Up until then snowboard was much more fun to use.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;When struggling with an [[API]], don't give up and don't workaround it. Change it! Make the system better. Become an [[API]] designer, contribute patches. Push the limits like [[Bode]] did!&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;When struggling with an [[API]], don't give up and don't workaround it. Change it! Make the system better. Become an [[API]] designer, contribute patches. Push the limits like [[Bode]] did!&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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			<pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2012 14:04:09 GMT</pubDate>			<dc:creator>JaroslavTulach</dc:creator>			<comments>http://wiki.apidesign.org/wiki/Talk:BodeMiller</comments>		</item>
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			<title>JaroslavTulach: /* Skiing */</title>
			<link>http://wiki.apidesign.org/index.php?title=BodeMiller&amp;diff=5483&amp;oldid=prev</link>
			<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;autocomment&quot;&gt;Skiing&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Can't turn? Become an [[API]] designer!&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Can't turn? Become an [[API]] designer!&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;-&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;[[Bode]] complains that for a while, around 1997 he could not find good enough skis to turn. [[Bode]] also admits that his snowboard experience showed him what capabilities skis should have. At the end of 1996 (during the winter design trip the [[Xelfi]] team decided to have), I had the chance to try snowboarding for the first time. It went surprisingly well, thus I bought my first [[wikipedia:&lt;del style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;niedecker&lt;/del&gt;|&lt;del style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;Niedecker&lt;/del&gt;]] board. Snowboard was immediately on par with my [[wikipedia:Völkl|Völkl P30]]. However the progress have not stopped. In 1998 I had the chance to use [[wikipedia:Völkl|Völkl Rentiger]] snowboard. Immediately I gave up on skis - the rentiger snowboard was just so much easier to turn!&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;[[Bode]] complains that for a while, around 1997 he could not find good enough skis to turn. [[Bode]] also admits that his snowboard experience showed him what capabilities skis should have. At the end of 1996 (during the winter design trip the [[Xelfi]] team decided to have), I had the chance to try snowboarding for the first time. It went surprisingly well, thus I bought my first [[wikipedia:&lt;ins style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;de:Nidecker&lt;/ins&gt;|&lt;ins style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;Nidecker&lt;/ins&gt;]] board. Snowboard was immediately on par with my [[wikipedia:Völkl|Völkl P30]]. However the progress have not stopped. In 1998 I had the chance to use [[wikipedia:Völkl|Völkl Rentiger]] snowboard. Immediately I gave up on skis - the rentiger snowboard was just so much easier to turn!&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;[[Bode]] mentions this in one or two paragraphs of his book. At that time the snowboard was easier to make turns than skis. But (unlike me) [[Bode]] has not given up and waited for skis that will be at least comparable to snowboard. Looks like he succeeded (being Olympic medalist at 2002 and 2006). I have not returned back to ski up until 2007, before I needed to ''walk around'' my children (which is easier with skis than snowboard). Up until then snowboard was much more fun to use.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;[[Bode]] mentions this in one or two paragraphs of his book. At that time the snowboard was easier to make turns than skis. But (unlike me) [[Bode]] has not given up and waited for skis that will be at least comparable to snowboard. Looks like he succeeded (being Olympic medalist at 2002 and 2006). I have not returned back to ski up until 2007, before I needed to ''walk around'' my children (which is easier with skis than snowboard). Up until then snowboard was much more fun to use.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;When struggling with an [[API]], don't give up and don't workaround it. Change it! Make the system better. Become an [[API]] designer, contribute patches. Push the limits like [[Bode]] did!&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;When struggling with an [[API]], don't give up and don't workaround it. Change it! Make the system better. Become an [[API]] designer, contribute patches. Push the limits like [[Bode]] did!&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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			<pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2012 14:02:55 GMT</pubDate>			<dc:creator>JaroslavTulach</dc:creator>			<comments>http://wiki.apidesign.org/wiki/Talk:BodeMiller</comments>		</item>
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			<title>JaroslavTulach: /* Skiing */</title>
			<link>http://wiki.apidesign.org/index.php?title=BodeMiller&amp;diff=5482&amp;oldid=prev</link>
			<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;autocomment&quot;&gt;Skiing&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Can't turn? Become an [[API]] designer!&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Can't turn? Become an [[API]] designer!&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;-&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;[[Bode]] &lt;del style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;complain &lt;/del&gt;that for a while, around 1997 he could not find good enough skis to turn. [[Bode]] also admits that his snowboard experience showed him what capabilities skis should have. At the end of 1996 (during the winter design trip the [[Xelfi]] team decided to have), I had the chance to try snowboarding for the first time. It went surprisingly well, thus I bought my first [[wikipedia:niedecker|Niedecker]] board. Snowboard was immediately on par with my [[wikipedia:Völkl|Völkl P30]]. However the progress have not stopped. In 1998 I had the chance to use [[wikipedia:Völkl|Völkl Rentiger]] snowboard. Immediately I gave up on skis - the rentiger snowboard was just so much easier to turn!&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;[[Bode]] &lt;ins style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;complains &lt;/ins&gt;that for a while, around 1997 he could not find good enough skis to turn. [[Bode]] also admits that his snowboard experience showed him what capabilities skis should have. At the end of 1996 (during the winter design trip the [[Xelfi]] team decided to have), I had the chance to try snowboarding for the first time. It went surprisingly well, thus I bought my first [[wikipedia:niedecker|Niedecker]] board. Snowboard was immediately on par with my [[wikipedia:Völkl|Völkl P30]]. However the progress have not stopped. In 1998 I had the chance to use [[wikipedia:Völkl|Völkl Rentiger]] snowboard. Immediately I gave up on skis - the rentiger snowboard was just so much easier to turn!&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;[[Bode]] mentions this in one or two paragraphs of his book. At that time the snowboard was easier to make turns than skis. But (unlike me) [[Bode]] has not given up and waited for skis that will be at least comparable to snowboard. Looks like he succeeded (being Olympic medalist at 2002 and 2006). I have not returned back to ski up until 2007, before I needed to ''walk around'' my children (which is easier with skis than snowboard). Up until then snowboard was much more fun to use.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;[[Bode]] mentions this in one or two paragraphs of his book. At that time the snowboard was easier to make turns than skis. But (unlike me) [[Bode]] has not given up and waited for skis that will be at least comparable to snowboard. Looks like he succeeded (being Olympic medalist at 2002 and 2006). I have not returned back to ski up until 2007, before I needed to ''walk around'' my children (which is easier with skis than snowboard). Up until then snowboard was much more fun to use.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;When struggling with an [[API]], don't give up and don't workaround it. Change it! Make the system better. Become an [[API]] designer, contribute patches. Push the limits like [[Bode]] did!&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;When struggling with an [[API]], don't give up and don't workaround it. Change it! Make the system better. Become an [[API]] designer, contribute patches. Push the limits like [[Bode]] did!&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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			<pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2012 14:01:01 GMT</pubDate>			<dc:creator>JaroslavTulach</dc:creator>			<comments>http://wiki.apidesign.org/wiki/Talk:BodeMiller</comments>		</item>
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			<title>JaroslavTulach: /* Woods */</title>
			<link>http://wiki.apidesign.org/index.php?title=BodeMiller&amp;diff=5481&amp;oldid=prev</link>
			<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;autocomment&quot;&gt;Woods&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;I have not grew up in the woods like [[Bode]] did, but still I am from a village with few voters on the edge of [[wikipedia:cs:Jestřebí_hory|mountains]]. Since 1920s we were a computer oriented area (as the origin of the word [[wikipedia:Karel_Čapek#Etymology_of_robot|robot]] comes from our county). Maybe it is good to grow up in ''wood-like'' parts of the world. Maybe that helps to look at things (including skiing and [[API]] design) from new angles.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;I have not grew up in the woods like [[Bode]] did, but still I am from a village with few voters on the edge of [[wikipedia:cs:Jestřebí_hory|mountains]]. Since 1920s we were a computer oriented area (as the origin of the word [[wikipedia:Karel_Čapek#Etymology_of_robot|robot]] comes from our county). Maybe it is good to grow up in ''wood-like'' parts of the world. Maybe that helps to look at things (including skiing and [[API]] design) from new angles.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;-&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Possibly, the more redneck you are, the more radical ideas you can have. [[Bode]] was always radical enough! Sometimes he was too radical to allow me to understood, but after reading his book, things make sense. &lt;del style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;Maybe you want to grow up in in woods to increase you chances to compete in contemporary world! &lt;/del&gt;Maybe you want to read [[TheAPIBook]] to understand [[API]] design!&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Possibly, the more redneck you are, the more radical ideas you can have. [[Bode]] was always radical enough! Sometimes he was too radical to allow me to understood, but after reading his book, things make sense. Maybe you want to read [[TheAPIBook]] to understand [[API]] design!&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;== Skiing ==&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;== Skiing ==&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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			<pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2012 14:00:43 GMT</pubDate>			<dc:creator>JaroslavTulach</dc:creator>			<comments>http://wiki.apidesign.org/wiki/Talk:BodeMiller</comments>		</item>
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			<title>JaroslavTulach: /* Be Fast! */</title>
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			<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;autocomment&quot;&gt;Be Fast!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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				&lt;td colspan='2' style=&quot;background-color: white; color:black;&quot;&gt;Revision as of 13:59, 7 February 2012&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;At one moment [[Bode]] asks: is it important to have good style or be fast? And he continues: given the fact that we are talking about a discipline that measures the performance in seconds, the primary measure is speed.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;At one moment [[Bode]] asks: is it important to have good style or be fast? And he continues: given the fact that we are talking about a discipline that measures the performance in seconds, the primary measure is speed.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;-&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Can we apply that to [[API]] design? Sure, because we often have to ask whether it is more important to be [[BackwardCompatibility|backward compatible]] or have nice internals of our libraries. I am amazed that the philosophy of a ski racer (be faster than have a nice style) is the same as a philosophy of a [[good]] [[API]] designer! Why should we believe in old those advices telling us that ''clean code'' is going to help us? &lt;del style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt; &lt;/del&gt;Calling for a clean code is like asking [[Bode]] to finish the race!&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Can we apply that to [[API]] design? Sure, because we often have to ask whether it is more important to be [[BackwardCompatibility|backward compatible]] or have nice internals of our libraries. I am amazed that the philosophy of a ski racer (be faster than have a nice style) is the same as a philosophy of a [[good]] [[API]] designer! &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Why should we believe in old those advices telling us that ''clean code'' is going to help us? &lt;ins style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;Sure, if we teach many people [[good]] style, some of them may get fast. But you can be fast, without having a [[good]] style. You can have [[good]] [[API]] even if the internals are not nice. &lt;/ins&gt;Calling for a clean code is like asking [[Bode]] to finish the race!&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;== Woods ==&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;== Woods ==&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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			<pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2012 13:59:32 GMT</pubDate>			<dc:creator>JaroslavTulach</dc:creator>			<comments>http://wiki.apidesign.org/wiki/Talk:BodeMiller</comments>		</item>
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