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JaroslavTulach: /* Platonic vs. Pragmatic */

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Platonic vs. Pragmatic

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	The heritage of such approach can be traced in [[rationalism]] and in some form remains in all of us. On the other hand, often we need results and as such it seems [[pragmatic\|pragmatism]] is often the measure of success of [[wikipedia:R&D\|R&D]] we use in day to day comparison.		The heritage of such approach can be traced in [[rationalism]] and in some form remains in all of us. On the other hand, often we need results and as such it seems [[pragmatic\|pragmatism]] is often the measure of success of [[wikipedia:R&D\|R&D]] we use in day to day comparison.

-	Still the desire for [[Platonic]] [[beauty]] remains (somewhere deep in our souls). To satisfy your [[platonic]] need to find [[beauty]] in the world of API design start exploring the [[20 API Paradoxes]]!	+	Still the desire for [[Platonic]] [[beauty]] remains (somewhere deep in our souls). To satisfy your [[platonic]] need to find [[beauty]] in the [[ScienceOfAPIDesign\|world of API design]] start exploring the [[20 API Paradoxes]]!

JaroslavTulach: /* Platonic vs. Pragmatic */

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Platonic vs. Pragmatic

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	The heritage of such approach can be traced in [[rationalism]] and in some form remains in all of us. On the other hand, often we need results and as such it seems [[pragmatic\|pragmatism]] is often the measure of success of [[wikipedia:R&D\|R&D]] we use in day to day comparison.		The heritage of such approach can be traced in [[rationalism]] and in some form remains in all of us. On the other hand, often we need results and as such it seems [[pragmatic\|pragmatism]] is often the measure of success of [[wikipedia:R&D\|R&D]] we use in day to day comparison.

-	Still the desire for [[Platonic]] [[beauty]] remains (somewhere deep in our souls).	+	Still the desire for [[Platonic]] [[beauty]] remains (somewhere deep in our souls). To satisfy your [[platonic]] need to find [[beauty]] in the world of API design start exploring the [[20 API Paradoxes]]!

JaroslavTulach: /* Platonic vs. Pragmatic */

2013-01-17T11:19:40Z

Platonic vs. Pragmatic

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	== [[Platonic]] vs. [[Pragmatic]] ==		== [[Platonic]] vs. [[Pragmatic]] ==

-	The relationship between the world of ideas and the geometric world nicely illustrates what [[Platonic]] approach to science means. The ideas are eternal. Unchangeable. Often (if not exclusively) they represent something positive. [[Beautiful]]. The task of a science is to analyse its field (its world) and seek for the ideas reflected in objects of such world. By shining more light on such world, by discovering more objects, more relationships between such objects and connecting that with ideas one discovers [[beauty]] in such world.	+	The relationship between the world of ideas and the geometric world nicely illustrates what [[Platonic]] approach to science means. The ideas are eternal. Unchangeable. Often (if not exclusively) they represent something positive. [[Beautiful]]. The task of a science is to analyse its field (its world) and seek for the ideas reflected in objects of such world. By shining more light on such world (e.g. enlarging one's [[horizon]]), by discovering more objects, more relationships between such objects and connecting that with ideas one discovers [[beauty]] in such world.

	The heritage of such approach can be traced in [[rationalism]] and in some form remains in all of us. On the other hand, often we need results and as such it seems [[pragmatic\|pragmatism]] is often the measure of success of [[wikipedia:R&D\|R&D]] we use in day to day comparison.		The heritage of such approach can be traced in [[rationalism]] and in some form remains in all of us. On the other hand, often we need results and as such it seems [[pragmatic\|pragmatism]] is often the measure of success of [[wikipedia:R&D\|R&D]] we use in day to day comparison.

	Still the desire for [[Platonic]] [[beauty]] remains (somewhere deep in our souls).		Still the desire for [[Platonic]] [[beauty]] remains (somewhere deep in our souls).

JaroslavTulach: /* Ideas and Geometry */

2013-01-17T11:17:37Z

Ideas and Geometry

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	Now apply the idea to the world of geometric objects. Imagine circle and ellipsis. Certainly both these objects are round - the idea of roundness is present in both of them. Moreover one can argue that circle is more round than ellipsis, as its roundness is the same at every point of its edge (while ellipsis is ''deformed''). From the above it is just a step to conclude that circle is more [[beautiful]] (with respect to roundness) than ellipsis.		Now apply the idea to the world of geometric objects. Imagine circle and ellipsis. Certainly both these objects are round - the idea of roundness is present in both of them. Moreover one can argue that circle is more round than ellipsis, as its roundness is the same at every point of its edge (while ellipsis is ''deformed''). From the above it is just a step to conclude that circle is more [[beautiful]] (with respect to roundness) than ellipsis.

-	Apply the idea of roundness to apple and pear. Again apple is clearly more round (thus more ideal) than a pear. However compared to circle, a normal apple is just a poor imitation of the roundness of a circle. This is a common observation when comparing objects from real world to objects of a geometric world. The conclusion to draw from the observation - when seeking for [[beauty]], do it in the geometric world. As the geometric world is much likely place for ideal [[beauty]] than the real one!	+	Apply the idea of roundness to apple and pear. Again apple is clearly more round (thus more ideal) than a pear. However compared to a circle, a normal apple is just a poor imitation of the roundness of a circle. This is a common observation when comparing objects from real world to objects of a geometric world. The conclusion to draw from the observation - when seeking for [[beauty]], do it in the geometric world. As the geometric world is much likely place for ideal [[beauty]] than the real one!

	== [[Platonic]] vs. [[Pragmatic]] ==		== [[Platonic]] vs. [[Pragmatic]] ==

JaroslavTulach: /* Ideas and Geometry */

2013-01-17T11:16:25Z

Ideas and Geometry

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	== Ideas and Geometry ==		== Ideas and Geometry ==

-	According to [[wikipedia::Plato\|Platón]], there is a world of ideas which are independent on the real and geometric worlds (yes, the real world is a different ~~one to~~ the geometric one; at least in [[wikipedia::History_of_geometry#Plato\|Platón's geometry]]). What we can do is to seek for these ideas to appear on object of real/geometric world.	+	According to [[wikipedia::Plato\|Platón]], there is a world of ideas which are independent on the real and geometric worlds (yes, the real world is different than the geometric one; at least in [[wikipedia::History_of_geometry#Plato\|Platón's geometry]]). What we can do is to seek for these ideas to appear on object of real/geometric world.

	Envision an idea of being ''round''. That is an idea that lives in the world of ideas.		Envision an idea of being ''round''. That is an idea that lives in the world of ideas.

JaroslavTulach: /* Ideas and Geometry */

2013-01-17T11:11:07Z

Ideas and Geometry

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	Now apply the idea to the world of geometric objects. Imagine circle and ellipsis. Certainly both these objects are round - the idea of roundness is present in both of them. Moreover one can argue that circle is more round than ellipsis, as its roundness is the same at every point of its edge (while ellipsis is ''deformed''). From the above it is just a step to conclude that circle is more [[beautiful]] (with respect to roundness) than ellipsis.		Now apply the idea to the world of geometric objects. Imagine circle and ellipsis. Certainly both these objects are round - the idea of roundness is present in both of them. Moreover one can argue that circle is more round than ellipsis, as its roundness is the same at every point of its edge (while ellipsis is ''deformed''). From the above it is just a step to conclude that circle is more [[beautiful]] (with respect to roundness) than ellipsis.

-	~~Try to apply~~ the idea of roundness to apple and pear. Again apple is clearly more round (thus more ideal) than a pear. However compared to circle, a normal apple is just a poor imitation of the roundness of a circle. This is a common observation when comparing objects from real world to objects of a geometric world. The conclusion to draw from the observation - when seeking for [[beauty]], do it in the geometric world. As the geometric world is much likely place for ideal [[beauty]] than the real one!	+	Apply the idea of roundness to apple and pear. Again apple is clearly more round (thus more ideal) than a pear. However compared to circle, a normal apple is just a poor imitation of the roundness of a circle. This is a common observation when comparing objects from real world to objects of a geometric world. The conclusion to draw from the observation - when seeking for [[beauty]], do it in the geometric world. As the geometric world is much likely place for ideal [[beauty]] than the real one!

	== [[Platonic]] vs. [[Pragmatic]] ==		== [[Platonic]] vs. [[Pragmatic]] ==

JaroslavTulach: /* Platonic vs. Pragmatic */

2013-01-17T11:10:24Z

Platonic vs. Pragmatic

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	The relationship between the world of ideas and the geometric world nicely illustrates what [[Platonic]] approach to science means. The ideas are eternal. Unchangeable. Often (if not exclusively) they represent something positive. [[Beautiful]]. The task of a science is to analyse its field (its world) and seek for the ideas reflected in objects of such world. By shining more light on such world, by discovering more objects, more relationships between such objects and connecting that with ideas one discovers [[beauty]] in such world.		The relationship between the world of ideas and the geometric world nicely illustrates what [[Platonic]] approach to science means. The ideas are eternal. Unchangeable. Often (if not exclusively) they represent something positive. [[Beautiful]]. The task of a science is to analyse its field (its world) and seek for the ideas reflected in objects of such world. By shining more light on such world, by discovering more objects, more relationships between such objects and connecting that with ideas one discovers [[beauty]] in such world.

-	The heritage of such approach can be traced in [[rationalism]] and in some form remains in all of us. On the other hand, often we need results and as such it seems [[pragmatic\|pragmatism]] is often the measure of success of [[wikipedia:R&D\|R&D]] we use in day to day comparison. Still the desire for [[beauty]] remains (somewhere deep in our souls).	+	The heritage of such approach can be traced in [[rationalism]] and in some form remains in all of us. On the other hand, often we need results and as such it seems [[pragmatic\|pragmatism]] is often the measure of success of [[wikipedia:R&D\|R&D]] we use in day to day comparison.
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		+	Still the desire for [[Platonic]] [[beauty]] remains (somewhere deep in our souls).

JaroslavTulach: /* Ideas and Geometry */

2013-01-17T11:08:47Z

Ideas and Geometry

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	Now apply the idea to the world of geometric objects. Imagine circle and ellipsis. Certainly both these objects are round - the idea of roundness is present in both of them. Moreover one can argue that circle is more round than ellipsis, as its roundness is the same at every point of its edge (while ellipsis is ''deformed''). From the above it is just a step to conclude that circle is more [[beautiful]] (with respect to roundness) than ellipsis.		Now apply the idea to the world of geometric objects. Imagine circle and ellipsis. Certainly both these objects are round - the idea of roundness is present in both of them. Moreover one can argue that circle is more round than ellipsis, as its roundness is the same at every point of its edge (while ellipsis is ''deformed''). From the above it is just a step to conclude that circle is more [[beautiful]] (with respect to roundness) than ellipsis.
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		+	Try to apply the idea of roundness to apple and pear. Again apple is clearly more round (thus more ideal) than a pear. However compared to circle, a normal apple is just a poor imitation of the roundness of a circle. This is a common observation when comparing objects from real world to objects of a geometric world. The conclusion to draw from the observation - when seeking for [[beauty]], do it in the geometric world. As the geometric world is much likely place for ideal [[beauty]] than the real one!

	== [[Platonic]] vs. [[Pragmatic]] ==		== [[Platonic]] vs. [[Pragmatic]] ==

JaroslavTulach: /* Ideas and Geometry */

2013-01-17T11:04:51Z

Ideas and Geometry

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	== Ideas and Geometry ==		== Ideas and Geometry ==

-	According to [[wikipedia::Plato\|Platón]], there is a world of ideas which are independent on the real and geometric worlds (yes, the real world is a different one to the geometric one; at least in [[wikipedia::Plato\|Platón]]'s geometry). What we can do is to seek for these ideas to appear on object of real/geometric world.	+	According to [[wikipedia::Plato\|Platón]], there is a world of ideas which are independent on the real and geometric worlds (yes, the real world is a different one to the geometric one; at least in [[wikipedia::History_of_geometry#Plato\|Platón's geometry]]). What we can do is to seek for these ideas to appear on object of real/geometric world.

	Envision an idea of being ''round''. That is an idea that lives in the world of ideas.		Envision an idea of being ''round''. That is an idea that lives in the world of ideas.

JaroslavTulach: /* Ideas and Geometry */

2013-01-17T11:02:39Z

Ideas and Geometry

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	== Ideas and Geometry ==		== Ideas and Geometry ==

-	According to [[wikipedia::Plato\|Platón]], there is a world of ideas which are independent on the real and geometric worlds (yes, the real world is a different one to geometric ~~world~~; at least in [[wikipedia::Plato\|Platón]]'s geometry). What we can do is to seek for these ideas to appear on object of real/geometric world.	+	According to [[wikipedia::Plato\|Platón]], there is a world of ideas which are independent on the real and geometric worlds (yes, the real world is a different one to the geometric one; at least in [[wikipedia::Plato\|Platón]]'s geometry). What we can do is to seek for these ideas to appear on object of real/geometric world.

	Envision an idea of being ''round''. That is an idea that lives in the world of ideas.		Envision an idea of being ''round''. That is an idea that lives in the world of ideas.