JDeveloper - Revision history

JaroslavTulach at 07:08, 16 July 2016

2016-07-16T07:08:17Z

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-	[[wikipedia:JDeveloper\|JDeveloper]] is the primary IDE to support [[Oracle]] non-open source technologies (like [[wikipedia:Oracle_Application_Development_Framework\|ADF]]). I really like [[JDeveloper]]'s support for working with [[XML]], it is far better than the [[NetBeans]] equivalent.	+	[[wikipedia:JDeveloper\|JDeveloper]] is the primary IDE to support [[Oracle]] non-open source technologies (like [[wikipedia:Oracle_Application_Development_Framework\|ADF]]) and a base for various other [[Oracle]] technologies like [[SQLDeveloper]]. I really like [[JDeveloper]]'s support for working with [[XML]], it is far better than the [[NetBeans]] equivalent.

	== Before Acquisition ==		== Before Acquisition ==

77.248.190.149: /* Other Side of the Ocean */

2013-07-13T09:05:19Z

Other Side of the Ocean

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	=== Other Side of the Ocean ===		=== Other Side of the Ocean ===

-	[[JDeveloper]] is rich platform. As rich as [[NetBeans Platform]] and in some sense even larger. I am always amazed when I look at [[JDeveloper]] code to find out it solves some general problem we had in [[NetBeans]] as well! Of course the solution is not the same, but clearly the original problem was very similar. Oh those [[Parallel Inventions]], oh those ''little differencies''!	+	[[JDeveloper]] is a rich platform. As rich as [[NetBeans Platform]] and in some sense even larger. I am always amazed when I look at [[JDeveloper]] code to find out it solves some general problem we had in [[NetBeans]] as well! Of course the solution is not the same, but clearly the original problem was very similar. Oh those [[Parallel Inventions]], oh those ''little differencies''!

	Significantly changing the [[JDeveloper]] platform would have very disturbing [[Big Bang]] effect. Rather I wanted to offer small steps towards shared base allowing additional code exchange. [[OSGi]] seemed like a good candidate. [[JDeveloper]] architecture follows concepts of JSR-198 and thus a sketch of [[modularity]] has always been present there. I was hoping that adopting [[OSGi]] could be natural next step sometime in future.		Significantly changing the [[JDeveloper]] platform would have very disturbing [[Big Bang]] effect. Rather I wanted to offer small steps towards shared base allowing additional code exchange. [[OSGi]] seemed like a good candidate. [[JDeveloper]] architecture follows concepts of JSR-198 and thus a sketch of [[modularity]] has always been present there. I was hoping that adopting [[OSGi]] could be natural next step sometime in future.

77.248.190.149: /* Common Ground */

2013-07-13T09:04:49Z

Common Ground

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	=== Common Ground ===		=== Common Ground ===

-	Slowly it became clear that the crucial part is going to be our relationship with [[JDeveloper]]. No company can sponsor two projects doing almost the same thing in a different way for an unlimited amount of time. We needed to find a way to share. As it is always easier to share when there is a common ground, I started to talk more about [[OSGi]] and [[modularity]] in general:	+	Slowly it became clear that the crucial part was going to be our relationship with [[JDeveloper]]. No company can sponsor two projects doing almost the same thing in a different way for an unlimited amount of time. We needed to find a way to share. As it is always easier to share when there is a common ground, I started to talk more about [[OSGi]] and [[modularity]] in general:

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77.248.190.149 at 09:03, 13 July 2013

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-	[[wikipedia:JDeveloper\|JDeveloper]] is the primary IDE to support [[Oracle]] non-open source technologies (like [[wikipedia:Oracle_Application_Development_Framework\|ADF]]). I really like [[JDeveloper]]'s support for working with [[XML]], it is far better than the [[NetBeans]] ~~one~~.	+	[[wikipedia:JDeveloper\|JDeveloper]] is the primary IDE to support [[Oracle]] non-open source technologies (like [[wikipedia:Oracle_Application_Development_Framework\|ADF]]). I really like [[JDeveloper]]'s support for working with [[XML]], it is far better than the [[NetBeans]] equivalent.

	== Before Acquisition ==		== Before Acquisition ==

77.248.190.149: /* Before Acquisition */

2013-07-13T09:03:15Z

Before Acquisition

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	== Before Acquisition ==		== Before Acquisition ==

-	When we learned that [[wikipedia:Sun_acquisition_by_Oracle\|Sun would be acquired by Oracle]] in April 2009, we knew we needed to modify [[NetBeans]] to be ready for the acquisition. We tried to guess what would make [[NetBeans]] attractive to [[Oracle]], but it was almost impossible to do so because up until the first quarter of 2010 (when [[wikipedia:Sun_acquisition_by_Oracle\|the acquisition]] was approved by [[wikipedia:European_Commission\|European Commission]]), there were no signals from [[Oracle]] to help us understand its [[NetBeans]] intentions. A tough situation, complicated by the fact that people were being fired every few months and those who stayed had little faith in the future. Still, I hoped we would get a chance to prove that [[NetBeans]] (and the [[NetBeans Platform]]) could be useful to Oracle.	+	When we learned that [[wikipedia:Sun_acquisition_by_Oracle\|Sun would be acquired by Oracle]] in April 2009, we knew we needed to modify [[NetBeans]] to be ready for the acquisition. We tried to guess what would make [[NetBeans]] attractive to [[Oracle]], but it was almost impossible to do so because up until the first quarter of 2010 (when [[wikipedia:Sun_acquisition_by_Oracle\|the acquisition]] was approved by the [[wikipedia:European_Commission\|European Commission]]), there were no signals from [[Oracle]] to help us understand its [[NetBeans]] intentions. A tough situation, complicated by the fact that people were being fired every few months and those who stayed had little faith in the future. Still, I hoped we would get a chance to prove that [[NetBeans]] (and the [[NetBeans Platform]]) could be useful to Oracle.

	=== Common Ground ===		=== Common Ground ===

77.248.190.149: /* Before Acquisition */

2013-07-13T09:02:39Z

Before Acquisition

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	== Before Acquisition ==		== Before Acquisition ==

-	When we learned that [[wikipedia:Sun_acquisition_by_Oracle\|Sun would be acquired by Oracle]] in April 2009, we knew we needed to modify [[NetBeans]] to be ready for the acquisition. We tried to guess what would make [[NetBeans]] attractive to [[Oracle]], but it was almost impossible to do so because up until first quarter of 2010 (when [[wikipedia:Sun_acquisition_by_Oracle\|the acquisition]] was approved by [[wikipedia:European_Commission\|European Commission]]), there were no signals from [[Oracle]] to help us understand its [[NetBeans]] intentions. A tough situation, complicated by the fact that people were being fired every few months and those who stayed had little faith in the future. Still, I hoped we would get a chance to prove that [[NetBeans]] (and the [[NetBeans Platform]]) could be useful to Oracle.	+	When we learned that [[wikipedia:Sun_acquisition_by_Oracle\|Sun would be acquired by Oracle]] in April 2009, we knew we needed to modify [[NetBeans]] to be ready for the acquisition. We tried to guess what would make [[NetBeans]] attractive to [[Oracle]], but it was almost impossible to do so because up until the first quarter of 2010 (when [[wikipedia:Sun_acquisition_by_Oracle\|the acquisition]] was approved by [[wikipedia:European_Commission\|European Commission]]), there were no signals from [[Oracle]] to help us understand its [[NetBeans]] intentions. A tough situation, complicated by the fact that people were being fired every few months and those who stayed had little faith in the future. Still, I hoped we would get a chance to prove that [[NetBeans]] (and the [[NetBeans Platform]]) could be useful to Oracle.

	=== Common Ground ===		=== Common Ground ===

77.248.190.149: /* Before Acquisition */

2013-07-13T09:02:04Z

Before Acquisition

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	== Before Acquisition ==		== Before Acquisition ==

-	When we learned that [[wikipedia:Sun_acquisition_by_Oracle\|Sun would be acquired by Oracle]] in April 2009 we knew we ~~wanted~~ to modify [[NetBeans]] to be ready for ~~such~~ acquisition. We tried to guess what ~~could~~ make [[NetBeans]] attractive ~~for~~ [[Oracle]], but it was almost impossible as up until first quarter of 2010 (when [[wikipedia:Sun_acquisition_by_Oracle\|the acquisition]] was approved by [[wikipedia:European_Commission\|European Commission]]) there ~~was~~ no signals from [[Oracle]] to help us understand its [[NetBeans]] intentions. ~~Tough~~ situation~~. Moreover~~ complicated by the fact that people ~~around~~ were fired every few months and those who stayed had little ~~trust~~ in the future. Still I hoped we would get a chance to prove that [[NetBeans]] (and [[NetBeans Platform]]) could be useful.	+	When we learned that [[wikipedia:Sun_acquisition_by_Oracle\|Sun would be acquired by Oracle]] in April 2009, we knew we needed to modify [[NetBeans]] to be ready for the acquisition. We tried to guess what would make [[NetBeans]] attractive to [[Oracle]], but it was almost impossible to do so because up until first quarter of 2010 (when [[wikipedia:Sun_acquisition_by_Oracle\|the acquisition]] was approved by [[wikipedia:European_Commission\|European Commission]]), there were no signals from [[Oracle]] to help us understand its [[NetBeans]] intentions. A tough situation, complicated by the fact that people were being fired every few months and those who stayed had little faith in the future. Still, I hoped we would get a chance to prove that [[NetBeans]] (and the [[NetBeans Platform]]) could be useful to Oracle.

	=== Common Ground ===		=== Common Ground ===

JaroslavTulach: /* Before Acquisition */

2011-06-20T15:28:25Z

Before Acquisition

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	== Before Acquisition ==		== Before Acquisition ==

-	When we learned that [[wikipedia:Sun_acquisition_by_Oracle\|Sun would be acquired by Oracle]] in April 2009 we knew we ~~want~~ to modify [[NetBeans]] to be ready for such acquisition. We tried to guess what could make [[NetBeans]] attractive for [[Oracle]], but it was almost impossible as up until first quarter of 2010 (when [[wikipedia:Sun_acquisition_by_Oracle\|the acquisition]] was approved by [[wikipedia:European_Commission\|European Commission]]) there was no signals from [[Oracle]] to help us understand its [[NetBeans]] intentions. Tough situation. Moreover complicated by the fact that people around were fired every few months and those who stayed had little trust in the future. Still I hoped we would get a chance to prove that [[NetBeans]] (and [[NetBeans Platform]]) could be useful.	+	When we learned that [[wikipedia:Sun_acquisition_by_Oracle\|Sun would be acquired by Oracle]] in April 2009 we knew we wanted to modify [[NetBeans]] to be ready for such acquisition. We tried to guess what could make [[NetBeans]] attractive for [[Oracle]], but it was almost impossible as up until first quarter of 2010 (when [[wikipedia:Sun_acquisition_by_Oracle\|the acquisition]] was approved by [[wikipedia:European_Commission\|European Commission]]) there was no signals from [[Oracle]] to help us understand its [[NetBeans]] intentions. Tough situation. Moreover complicated by the fact that people around were fired every few months and those who stayed had little trust in the future. Still I hoped we would get a chance to prove that [[NetBeans]] (and [[NetBeans Platform]]) could be useful.

	=== Common Ground ===		=== Common Ground ===

151.16.113.127: /* Before Acquisition */

2011-06-14T19:21:31Z

Before Acquisition

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	== Before Acquisition ==		== Before Acquisition ==

-	When we learned that [[wikipedia:Sun_acquisition_by_Oracle\|Sun would be acquired by Oracle]] in April 2009 we knew we want to modify [[NetBeans]] to be ready for such acquisition. We tried to guess what could make [[NetBeans]] attractive for [[Oracle]], but it was almost impossible as up until first quarter of 2010 (when [[wikipedia:Sun_acquisition_by_Oracle\|the acquisition]] was approved by [[wikipedia:European_Commission\|~~Europian~~ Commission]]) there was no signals from [[Oracle]] to help us understand its [[NetBeans]] intentions. Tough situation. Moreover complicated by the fact that people around were fired every few months and those who stayed had little trust in the future. Still I hoped we would get a chance to prove that [[NetBeans]] (and [[NetBeans Platform]]) could be useful.	+	When we learned that [[wikipedia:Sun_acquisition_by_Oracle\|Sun would be acquired by Oracle]] in April 2009 we knew we want to modify [[NetBeans]] to be ready for such acquisition. We tried to guess what could make [[NetBeans]] attractive for [[Oracle]], but it was almost impossible as up until first quarter of 2010 (when [[wikipedia:Sun_acquisition_by_Oracle\|the acquisition]] was approved by [[wikipedia:European_Commission\|European Commission]]) there was no signals from [[Oracle]] to help us understand its [[NetBeans]] intentions. Tough situation. Moreover complicated by the fact that people around were fired every few months and those who stayed had little trust in the future. Still I hoped we would get a chance to prove that [[NetBeans]] (and [[NetBeans Platform]]) could be useful.

	=== Common Ground ===		=== Common Ground ===

JaroslavTulach: /* Sharing */

2011-06-14T08:58:44Z

Sharing

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	== Sharing ==		== Sharing ==

-	Clearly, sharing some code between [[JDeveloper]] and [[NetBeans]] helps the [[JDeveloper]] users to get better product. Such users will get support for their favorite technology the way they are used to, just sometimes it may be faster, and sometimes it may look [[netbeans:WinSys71PressRelease\|nicer]] thanks to the [[NetBeans Platform]].	+	Clearly, sharing some code between [[JDeveloper]] and [[NetBeans]] helps the [[JDeveloper]] users to get better product. Such users will get support for their favorite technology the way they are used to, just sometimes it may be [[Netbinox\|faster]], and sometimes it may look [[netbeans:WinSys71PressRelease\|nicer]] thanks to the [[NetBeans Platform]].

	Sharing also helps the [[NetBeans]] team to get into better mood. It always makes you happier to know that your work is used. If it is used by a strategic product of your own employer, it can help you feel confident. In fact few team members who left during last two years are returning back, and that is a sign of regaining trust.		Sharing also helps the [[NetBeans]] team to get into better mood. It always makes you happier to know that your work is used. If it is used by a strategic product of your own employer, it can help you feel confident. In fact few team members who left during last two years are returning back, and that is a sign of regaining trust.