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		<title>JaroslavTulach at 14:10, 6 February 2014</title>
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;-&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;We know what a [[good technology]] is, can we &lt;del style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;also &lt;/del&gt;evaluate whether an advice is [[good]] or not? Let me answer that by a quote from [[TheAPIBook]] which [[Yoshiki]] asked about:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;How do you recognize [[Good Advice]]? &lt;/ins&gt;We &lt;ins style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;already &lt;/ins&gt;know what a [[good technology]] is, can we &lt;ins style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;use the same concept to &lt;/ins&gt;evaluate whether an advice is [[good]] or not? Let me answer that by a quote from [[TheAPIBook]] which [[Yoshiki]] asked about:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;===== Page 363 =====&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;===== Page 363 =====&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<title>JaroslavTulach at 08:03, 6 February 2014</title>
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;We know what a [[good technology]] is, can we also evaluate whether an advice is [[good]] or not? Let me answer that by a quote from [[TheAPIBook]] which [[Yoshiki]] asked about:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;We know what a [[good technology]] is, can we also evaluate whether an advice is [[good]] or not? Let me answer that by a quote from [[TheAPIBook]] which [[Yoshiki]] asked about:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;[[Outline|Part 1]] presents all of API design as a scientific discipline with a strong rational background,&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;[[Outline|Part 1]] presents all of API design as a scientific discipline with a strong rational background,&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<title>JaroslavTulach at 08:03, 6 February 2014</title>
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		<title>JaroslavTulach at 09:00, 5 February 2014</title>
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;-&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;===== What do you mean by ''this advice''? =====&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;===== &lt;ins style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;[[Yoshiki]]: &lt;/ins&gt;What do you mean by ''this advice''? =====&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;quot;this advice&amp;quot; is a reference to advice mentioned in &amp;quot;to find out whether a certain piece of advice helps us design better shared libraries&amp;quot;. To rephrase: any advice that helps users increase [[cluelessness]] is [[good]] and it will be even more valuable in the future when we start to build even bigger systems.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;quot;this advice&amp;quot; is a reference to advice mentioned in &amp;quot;to find out whether a certain piece of advice helps us design better shared libraries&amp;quot;. To rephrase: any advice that helps users increase [[cluelessness]] is [[good]] and it will be even more valuable in the future when we start to build even bigger systems.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<title>JaroslavTulach: /* What do you mean by this advice? */</title>
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;quot;this advice&amp;quot; is a reference to advice mentioned in &amp;quot;to find out whether a certain piece of advice helps us design better shared libraries&amp;quot;. To rephrase: any advice that helps users increase [[cluelessness]] is [[good]] and it will be even more valuable in the future when we start to build even bigger systems.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;quot;this advice&amp;quot; is a reference to advice mentioned in &amp;quot;to find out whether a certain piece of advice helps us design better shared libraries&amp;quot;. To rephrase: any advice that helps users increase [[cluelessness]] is [[good]] and it will be even more valuable in the future when we start to build even bigger systems.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;-&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;del style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&lt;/del&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<title>JaroslavTulach: New page: We know what a good technology is, can we also evaluate whether an advice is good or not? Let me answer that by a quote from TheAPIBook which Yoshiki asked about:  ==== Pag...</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;New page: We know what a &lt;a href=&quot;/wiki/Good_technology&quot; class=&quot;mw-redirect&quot; title=&quot;Good technology&quot;&gt;good technology&lt;/a&gt; is, can we also evaluate whether an advice is &lt;a href=&quot;/wiki/Good&quot; title=&quot;Good&quot;&gt;good&lt;/a&gt; or not? Let me answer that by a quote from &lt;a href=&quot;/wiki/TheAPIBook&quot; title=&quot;TheAPIBook&quot;&gt;TheAPIBook&lt;/a&gt; which &lt;a href=&quot;/wiki/Yoshiki&quot; title=&quot;Yoshiki&quot;&gt;Yoshiki&lt;/a&gt; asked about:  ==== Pag...&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;We know what a [[good technology]] is, can we also evaluate whether an advice is [[good]] or not? Let me answer that by a quote from [[TheAPIBook]] which [[Yoshiki]] asked about:&lt;br /&gt;
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==== Page 363 ====&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Outline|Part 1]] presents all of API design as a scientific discipline with a strong rational background,&lt;br /&gt;
not as the art that it sometimes pretends to be. It defines terminology and initial prerequisites&lt;br /&gt;
that can objectively help us measure if an API design is [[good]]. These rules try to be language neutral&lt;br /&gt;
and applicable to any programming language, not just [[Java]]. The theory is unlikely to be&lt;br /&gt;
complete. Other principles of API design exist elsewhere or are still waiting to be discovered.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
However, that should not scare us, as [[Chapter 1]] gives us a tool to evaluate the quality of various&lt;br /&gt;
principles to find out whether a certain piece of advice helps us design better shared libraries&lt;br /&gt;
and their [[API]]s or not. It gives us the grand meta-principle: selective [[cluelessness]]. This [[cluelessness]]&lt;br /&gt;
is a tool that can measure whether various goals really help. That’s because if they allow&lt;br /&gt;
people to know less while achieving more and building better software systems more easily, then&lt;br /&gt;
this advice is good. There is a need for this advice, especially in the future, when software systems&lt;br /&gt;
will outsize the intellectual capacity of any of their designers.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===== What do you mean by ''this advice''? =====&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;this advice&amp;quot; is a reference to advice mentioned in &amp;quot;to find out whether a certain piece of advice helps us design better shared libraries&amp;quot;. To rephrase: any advice that helps users increase [[cluelessness]] is [[good]] and it will be even more valuable in the future when we start to build even bigger systems.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:JaroslavTulach|JaroslavTulach]] 08:54, 5 February 2014 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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